*** Gotha G.IV 1065/16 ***

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Gotha G.IV 1065/16 - 'Englandflieger' - Kavel S-55

Letter 17-sep-1945 - Emil Haes - WWI Grave No. 570 Vollenhove
In the same letter - 17 Sept 1945 - There is also mentioned a German Airmen - WW I -
buried ? 29 Sept 1917 ? , Emil Haes - born 29 Sept 1890 - in Grave No. 570 - Vollenhove Cemetery
Reinterred in Ysselsteyn, Limburg, The Netherlands - German "Soldatenfriedhof " - Section 1914-1918 - Block A Grab 23
one of the 85 Germans of WW I buried at the largest War cemetery - 28 ha - 31598 Graves
- info - 12 Dec 2008 - PATS -
- burial date is questionable - see below 'NRC' paper clippings - it's Thursday 18 Oct 1917

Vzfw. Emil Haes - Grab A 23 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn Vzfw. Heinz Schreiber - Grab A 22 - Vzfw. Emil Haes - Grab A 23 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn
German "Soldatenfriedhof " - Ysselsteyn - Section 1914-1918 - Heinz Schreiber - Emil Haes
- images via Mariëtte Hendriks - Volksbund.de - 17 Sep 2009 -

Nieuwe Rotterdamse Courant - 17 Oct 1917
Nieuwe Rotterdamse Courant - 17 Oct 1917
16 Oct 1917 - Vollenhove - German Airmen brought to Vollenhove by fishermen
- burial date of 29 Sept 1917 is wrong - info PATS -
- according newsclip - found 16 Oct 1917 - but it's Monday 15 Oct 1917 ( Archive Stad-Vollenhove )
- info 'newsclip' from 'Koninklijke Bibliotheek' - via Frits Gerdessen - 6 Feb 2009 -

Nieuwe Rotterdamse Courant - 19 Oct 1917
Nieuwe Rotterdamse Courant - 19 Oct 1917
18 Oct 1917 - Vollenhove - Burial unknown German Airmen with Military Funeral Honor
- Name still unknown - but it's Emil Haes - info PATS -
- info 'newsclip' from 'Koninklijke Bibliotheek' - via Frits Gerdessen - 6 Feb 2009 -


Gotha G IV 406/16 in Belgium 1917
Gotha G.IV 406/16 - Genth/Radke - Belgium 1917
- image courtesy Thomas Genth (grandson) -
www.angelfire.com/hi5/tgenth/gotha/GothaGIVe.htm

Specifications (Gotha G.V) - General characteristics - 232 G.IV bombers were built
Fuselage: Plywood construction - Wings: Plywood , fabric covered
Role: Bomber - Manufacturer Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG - Designed by Hans Burkhard
First flight 1917 - Primary user Luftstreitkräfte - Produced 1917 to 1918
Crew: 3 - Length: 12.42 m (40 ft 8 in) - Wingspan: 23.70 m (77 ft 9 in)
Height: 4.5 m (14 ft) - Wing area: 89.5 m² (963.6 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,739 kg (6,039 lb) - Max takeoff weight: 3,967 kg (8,745 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Mercedes D.IVa inline engine, 260 hp (191 kW) each
Performance: Maximum speed: 140 km/h (87 mph) - Range: 840 km (522 miles) - Service ceiling: 6,500 m (21,325 ft)
Armament: 2 or 3 × 7.92 mm (.312 in) Parabellum MG14 machine guns
- Specifications via wikipedia -
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Three Gothas were lost by "Fliegertruppe III"
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G.IV 602/16 came down, Saturday morning 01:00am - 29 Sep 1917, near Sas van Gent - Prov. of Zeeland
With 6 bombs on board
Kagohl 3 - Kasta 13 - Crew: Oblt. Bäuerle, Lt. Metzger and Lt. Baumann

Terneuzen, 29 Sep 1917 - hedennacht
Newsclip - Terneuzen, 29 Sep 1917 - hedennacht
source Delpher

G.IV 602/16 - Sas van Gent - via Frits Gerdessen
G.IV 602/16 - Sas van Gent
via Frits Gerdessen - 28 Jan 2013
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Crew of G.IV 1065/16 - Vzfw. Emil Haas, Lt. Martin Emmler and Vzfw. Heinrich Schreiber
did crash into Zuiderzee on 28 Sep 1917 or on 29 Sep 1917 based on tombstone of Haes [HAAS]
In the night of 3/4 Oct 1917, the nets of fishing boat EB61 did caught
a part of a wing, which was brought on land in Elburg - Prov. of Gelderland
On Oct 10, the body of Lt. Martin Emmler (?shot wounds? and broken legs) was found by UK125 of J. Wakker
He was buried, Saturday 13 Oct 1917 with Military Funeral Honor in Kampen [ source: Elburgsche Courant ]
10 October is given in the records as his death
Reinterred in Ysselsteyn, Limburg, The Netherlands - German "Soldatenfriedhof " - Section 1914-1918 - Block B Grab 30
Ltn.d.R. Martin Emmler, Ober-Düsseldorf, born 4 Jan 1886, Breslau (Breslau after 1945: Wroclaw,Poland)
source birth date and place: "Casualties of the German Air Service 1914-1920"

Utrechts Nieuwsblad - Monday 15 Oct 1917 - Blad 2 - Funeral of Emmler in Kampen
clip - Utrechts Nieuwsblad - Monday 15 Oct 1917 - Blad 2
Funeral of Martin Emmler in Kampen
- source hetutrechtsarchief.nl -

Lt. Martin Emmler - Grab B 30 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - by Fred Munckhof Lt. Martin Emmler - Grab B 30 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - by Fred Munckhof Lt. Martin Emmler - Grab B 30 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - proposed by PATS
. . . . .Lt. Martin Emmler - Grab B 30 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - by Fred Munckhof . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Proposed by PATS . . . . .
images by: Fred Munckhof - 03 May 2011 - 20 Nov 2015 - Find A Grave Memorial# 69273009
proposed image with correct info - by PATS - 16 Apr 2017
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Clip - Verlustliste nr.970 of 23 Oct 1917
23 Oct 1917 - Verlustliste - Nr. 970 - HAAS - EMMLER - SCHREIBER
Emil Haas - leicht verletzt und auf neutralem Gebiet zurückgehalten
Martin Emmler - schwer verletzt und auf neutralem Gebiet zurückgehalten
Heinrich Schreiber - leicht verletzt und auf neutralem Gebiet zurückgehalten
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source Verlustliste 1. Weltkrieg - des.genealogy.net
Discrepancy - birthday for Lt. Emmler is given as 4 January (other sources 4 April) - info PATS
Need to be verified - info PATS

25 Oct 1917 - Blankenham - death record No. 4
Death record No.4 - Blankenham - 25 Oct 1917 - 08:00 am - death finding of Vizefeldwebel Heinz Schreiber
- info archive Blankenham - via Klaas Boes, Alb.Zn

"Heden vijf en twintig October negentienhonderd zeventien,
verscheen voor mij Ambtenaar van den burgelijken stand der gemeente Blankenham:
Gerrit Berendsen, oud vijf en vijftig jaren, Veldwachter, wonende te Kuinre
en Wouter Fledderus, oud zes en dertig jaren, Klerk, wonende te Kuinre
die mij verklaarden, dat op vijf en twintig October dezes jaars, des voormiddags ten acht ure, in deze gemeente
aan het Zeestrand op het Zuideinde is aangebracht een lijk van een manspersoon gekleed
in Duitsch vliegeniersuniform, wegens den staat van ontbinding waarin het lijk verkeerde, is de ouderdom
van den man niet kunnen vastgesteld worden; volgens op het lijk gevonden brief is de omgekomene vermoedelijk
vizefeldwebel Heinz Schreiber, waarschijnlijk afkomstig uit Paderborn, Duitschland"

Vzfw. Heinrich Schreiber, born 11 Jan 1886, Paderborn
source birth date: "Casualties of the German Air Service 1914-1920"

Gerrit Berendsen b.30 Jun 1862, Zwollerkerspel - agent van politie - marriage - 25 Apr 1889 - Age 26 - Gerridina Horsman (30) - Zwolle
Wouter Fledderus b.~1881 - postbode - marriage - 04 Jun 1910 - Age 29 - Klaasje de Boer (28) - Kuinre
roots info via www.genlias.nl

Vizefeldwebel Heinz Schreiber is found 25 Oct 1917 - 08:00am by Gerrit Berendsen (55 - policeman) and
Wouter Fledderus (36 - clerk), both living in Kuinre, on the beach 'Zeestrand' at Blankenham (Zuideinde)
a letter found on the corpse indicates him pressumably as Heinz Schreider from Paderborn, Germany
He is buried - 25 Oct 1917 - at General Cemetery in Blankenham, Netherlands
Reinterred in Ysselsteyn, Limburg, The Netherlands - German "Soldatenfriedhof " - Section 1914-1918 - Block A Grab 22
- info - Frits Gerdessen and Mariëtte Hendriks - 20 Mar 2009 -
- info archive Blankenham - via Klaas Boes, Alb.Zn - 12 Nov 2009
Discrepancy - Firstname and Rank are different - 20 Mar 2009 - PATS -

Utrechts Nieuwsblad - Monday 29 Oct 1917 - Blad 2 - Finding of Schreiber near Blankenham
clip - Utrechts Nieuwsblad - Monday 29 Oct 1917 - Blad 2
Finding of Schreiber near Blankenham
- source hetutrechtsarchief.nl -

Deutscher Soldatenfriedhof Ysselsteyn - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - by Fred Munckhof Vzfw. Heinz Schreiber - Grab A 22 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - by Fred Munckhof Vzfw. Heinrich Schreiber - Grab A 22 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - proposed by PATS
. . . . .Vzfw. Heinz Schreiber - Grab A 22 - 1914-1918 Ysselsteyn - by Fred Munckhof . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Proposed by PATS . . . . .
images by: Fred Munckhof - 03 May 2011 - Find A Grave Memorial# 69266430
proposed image with correct info - by PATS - 16 Apr 2017
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undercarriage Gotha G.IV 1065/16 found Aug 1963 - at location
Undercarriage Gotha G.IV 1065/16 at location - Kavel S-55 - Aug 1963
Salvage landing gear and bombload of G.IV 1065/16 is done by RNLAF on 7 Aug 1963
it's also described on pages 45-47 - "In de schaduw van de glorie" by S. L. Veenstra (A4-188 pages)

Pilot - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Observer / Bombardier / Air Gunner - - - - - - - - - - Air Gunner
Vzfw. Emil Haes - Grab A 23 1914-1918 - Ysselsteyn Lt. Martin Emmler - Grab B 30 1914-1918 - Ysselsteyn Vzfw. Heinz Schreiber - Grab A 22 1914-1918 - Ysselsteyn
Vzfw. Emil Haes - - - - - - - - - - - - Lt. Martin Emmler - - - - - - - - - - Vzfw. Heinz Schreiber
Flugzeugführer - - - - - - - - Beobachter / Bomben-und MG-Schütze - - - - - - - - - MG Schütze

It's Vzfw. Emil HAAS - info PATS

- P R O P O S E D - B Y - P A T S -
Vzfw. Emil Haes - Grab A 23 1914-1918 - Ysselsteyn Lt. Martin Emmler - Grab B 30 1914-1918 - Ysselsteyn Vzfw. Heinrich Schreiber - Grab A 22 1914-1918 - Ysselsteyn
        EMIL HAAS       - - - - - - - - -     MARTIN EMMLER     - - - - - - -     HEINRICH SCHREIBER
VZF.      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -       LT.       - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -       VZF.
29.9.90   †29.9.17   - - - - - - - - - - - -   4.1.86   †29.9.17   - - - - - - - - - - - - -   11.1.86   †29.9.17
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G.V 668/16 crash-landed [28 Sep 1917 - 23:30pm] near Sneek - Prov. of Friesland / Frisian
Crew: Lt. Hans Starck, Flugzeugführer, Fw. Wolfgang Dietz und apprentice-pilot Herbert Fliege.
was set on fire by crew: Lt. Starck, Fw. Dietz and Flugschüler Fliege. All three (3) unhurt
- info - Frits Gerdessen - 6 Feb 2009 -
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Gotha G.V 668/16 - Sneek Gotha G.V 668/16 - Sneek
Gotha G.V 668/16 - Sneek
Gotha G.V 668/16 - Sneek
sources: Wim Boomgaard and Johan G. Visser
via Frits Gerdessen - 28 Jan 2013 -

Gotha G.V 668/16 crash-landed on Friday evening 23:30pm - 28 Sep 1917
Take-off: Gontrode (Ghent), Belgium - 20:00pm - Kasta 16 [Kampfstaffel 16]
Leeuarder Courant - clips - 29 Sep / 01 Nov 1917
Sat 29 Sep 1917 - - - Gotha G.V 668/16 - Sneek - - - Mon 01 Oct 1917
News clips / Leeuwarder Courant archive - via Douwe Drijver - 28 Jan 2013 -
discrepancy - Storck - Starck
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Note: Numbers / code fishing boats
Around the Zuiderzee / Zuider Sea all towns did have an abbreviation as "code"
EB = Town of Elburg, UK = Isle of Urk
VN = Town of Vollenhove, LE = Town of Lemmer
VD = Town of Volendam, etc ......
- info by PATS - 7 Feb 2009 -
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Vzfw. = VZF. = Vizefeldwebel (acting Sergeant) - info PATS -
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Last WWI update - 30 Sep 2017 - PATS -

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GOTHA G.IV 1065/16 - 29 Sep 1917 - ZUIDERZEE - CREW 3

 Vzfw. Emil Haas - Grave No. 570  Lt. Martin Emmler  Vzfw. Heinrich Schreiber

- 3 KIA -

HAAS (†) - EMMLER(†) - SCHREIBER(†)

- Haas, Emmler and Schreiber not found so far -

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